Saturday, March 3, 2012

"There is no such thing as a “law abiding citizen”"

That is an official statement of the 'National Gun Victims Action Council' NGAC (why they don't call it NGVAC I don't know). They equate someone who speeds to a homicidal murderer because they believe a person who goes 60 in a 55 is just as likely to get a gun and go on a violent rampage, shooting as many innocent people as possible. You think I'm kidding?

"Anyone can lose control at any moment."
Think about the level of fear and clinical paranoia a person must have to believe that. To believe that we are all just another Cho, Lougner, Hasan, or Lane waiting to happen 'at any moment'. That they can't recognize the difference between a truly immoral/sociopathic action and an arbitrary bureaucratic prohibition. Then realize that this person believes they should set policy for you, determining what you should be 'allowed' to do w/ your rights, property and life. Also remember that the majority of the NGAC board are also affiliated w/ the Brady Campaign.

On another note, what kind of people is he around if he's "seen people jump out of a cars and come to blows over a parking spot, taxis cutting them off, violent arguments in movies about texting etc." on such a regular occurrence that it's the standard for his view of society?

Oh, Chicago. Right. The city w/ some of the strictest gun laws in the nation and 5x the murder rate of the rest of the state. Gun Control is a mental illness.

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Divemedic said...

Lets apply that logic in other areas:
1 No one should be able to have fee speech. After all, we have all seen people who say untrue, slanderous things. Every speaker was once law abiding.
2 We all know that there are many people who create child pornography. Hey, every child pornographer was once a law abiding camera owner. We should outlaw cameras to stamp out child porn.
The idea that some people break the law is not an excuse to punish everyone.

BobG said...

Sounds to me those characters are just projecting their own vicious urges on everyone else. The attitude that says: "I'm an asshole, so everyone else must be one, too."

“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.”
- George Washington

Bob S. said...

Now they are making me afraid for my life - I trust me to do the right thing but those other guys......well.

So, according to them I have MORE reason to carry than ever before. Heck, one of the people in NGAC might snap at any time and try to kill me, right?

Robert Fowler said...

I'm a ill tempered old asshole. I have road rage when I'm at work. I never thought about firing on them. A good screaming in the confines of my car hurts no one. Why do these liberal idiot pisswits think I'm going to kill someone over a parking spot? In the 37 years that I have carried, I have only pulled my weapon one time, no shots fired. I guess the goblin decided a 38 beat a pair of fists. The only time I have ever fired is on a range or out hunting.

Their projection actually scares me. These people (and I use the term loosely) that claim to be afraid of us are really afraid that if they were armed, they would shoot someone over a fender bender. That's some scary shit. They need to seek out professional help at the first opportunity. Especially the Goddards. The gun hating Father and the coward son both need a good session on a shrinks couch.

Pyrotek85 said...

"Anyone can lose control at any moment."

Pardon my language but that's bullshit. Most people are not unstable, and if these people think otherwise, then it is they who should be seeing a shrink.

If this were true there would be no society at all, as people would be randomly going into rampages at any given time.

Braden Lynch said...

Wow, sheer lunacy.

I want everyone at NGAC (note, they can't even make up a proper organization abbreviation that corresponds-dumb), put in prison immediately! They will probably have a case of road rage or lose their temper soon and I would bet serious money that they at one time disobeyed the speed limit.

Their comparing a moving violation misdemeanor for speeding with the felonies of assault and murder shows they have no moral compass, and no intellectual capacity. I tire of these idiots trying to say things are morally equivalent when they are not in the same universe. NGAC is to be ignored and pitied.

Everyone (except those nimrods) knows and understands that the term law-abiding citizen is used for the VAST majority of citizens and firearms owners who play by the rules, obey the USELESS gun control laws and regulations and are your basic, typical next door neighbor who does not have an actual criminal record. Hint, speeding does not rise to that level.

Finally, as has been noted, their criteria of "potential future violators" is an impossibly absurd standard when viewed against any other tool or activity.

Finally, there are numerous cases where victims have turned the tables on criminals who "got the drop on them" so they cannot even get simple facts straight. They are liars and idiots, the whole lot of them.

Can you tell I do not take kindly to their insults of me, one of the law-abiding citizens? Payback is a bitch NGAC!

Overload in Colorado said...

I think it's the tight confines of cities that brings about this aggressive behavior. Your personal space is being constantly violated.

Overload in Colorado said...

BTW, with the Man Made Global Warming, they say that CO2 is bad. We exhale CO2, so aren't we bad?

or is that another example of Malum prohibitum?

Shy Wolf said...

"...there is no such thing as a law abiding citizen..."
So what they're really saying is they are not obeying the law. Sounds like a very clear case of self-incrimination to me.

Sigivald said...

Yeah, it's like they have no idea about the concept of malum in se vs. malum prohibitum, or having the slightest moral compass.

The "law abiding" person of the "NRA" anecdote obeys the law because the law prohibits something bad, not Because It Is The Law.

That's why he can also speed (prohibita) but even if there was no law wouldn't murder (in se).

(Or, as attributed to Aristotle: I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.)

Spocko said...

I'd find these comments very interesting. I'd like to know if there is any validity to the idea at all.

I'm going to drop a line to thirdpower to learn more.

Erin Palette said...

Yannow, if "Anyone can lose control at any moment," that is a damn good reason why I should carry.