Friday, September 7, 2007
According to the Anti's. And who are these future killers? Why the NYS Rifle & Pistol Association Junior Shooting Team. I'ld love to see a "7UP" kind of study on these kids especially since evidence shows that kids raised w/ responsible firearm ownership commit less crimes.
Thanks to Tom King.
Even though it doesn't cover even half of the traced firearms, I'm sure they'll keep shouting it to the world that this is the new technology that will solve crimes, cure impotence, and keep your dog from crapping on the carpet.
To me, this is just another beaurocratic push to defacto ban handguns since I can't see many companies retooling to supply these. Actually it's a pretty slick move on the part of the Anti’s. Before, we could always point to them as the source of the ban or confiscation. Now, when companies don’t retool, they can point to the companies and say “See, they don’t really care about their customers or solving crime, it’s all about the money.”.
I agree w/ Matt over on Snowflakes, we should encourage companies to boycott the CA authorities ala Barrett.
I give it two years before they try to expand it to rifles. As Kevin B. says :Do it again, only HARDER.
Thursday, September 6, 2007
TRENTON, N.J. - The FBI arrested 11 public officials, including a mayor and two state lawmakers, Thursday in a federal corruption probe that spread across the state, the U.S. Attorney's office said...
Democratic state Assemblymen Mims Hackett Jr.(a non MAIG Mayor) and Alfred E. Steele (a pastor) were both arrested, along with Passaic Mayor Samuel Rivera, the law enforcement official said. Also arrested were the chief of staff to Newark's City Council president, Passaic Councilmen Jonathan Soto and Marcellus Jackson, and five Pleasantville school board members.
As of 10am, his name is still listed here and here.
He also masturbates over a new piece of fishwrap by Cornell .
To bad our buddy Saul was made to look like a complete idiot in a debate w/ people who actually know what they're talking about.
Wednesday, September 5, 2007
For the most part, I'm under the impression of "each-to-his-own" but lean towards the "let them post" side. As in the link to TOS's thread below, none of us were actually trying to convince Jade, but to present factual information. I learned quite a bit and added some useful reference materials to my resource library. BTW, Thanks for those CC.
I've said that letting the trolls post does us more good than a half-dozen blogs. The information I gleamed from these threads will further the cause of 2A rights as well as providing even more examples to the "logic" of the Anti's.
"All UK 'must be on DNA database'
Lord Justice Sedley
Lord Justice Sedley is a senior appeal court judge
The whole population and every UK visitor should be added to the national DNA database, a senior judge has said.
The present database in England and Wales holds details of 4m people who are guilty or cleared of a crime.
Lord Justice Sedley said this was indefensible and biased against ethnic minorities, and it would be fairer to include everyone, guilty or innocent.
Ministers said DNA helped tackle crime, but there were no plans for a voluntary national or compulsory UK database."
Can you say slippery-slope boys and girls?
You: SayUncle censors and threatens those who do not ‘toe’ the party line. I was banned there. SayUncle’s banning pretty well proves the point.
Me: SayUncle says you’re not banned there and I believe him.
You: You really shouldn’t believe Kevin Baker, he’s a notorious liar. He banned me.
Me: SayUncle is not Kevin Baker. SayUncle writes SayUncle. Kevin Baker writes The Smallest Minority. Kevin has banned you. SayUncle has not. Perhaps you owe SayUncle an apology.
You: Kevin Baker is a liar. I don’t owe liars apologies.
Kevin Baker and SayUncle are two different people, who write two different blogs. You are banned from one blog. You are not banned from the other blog. The one that you are NOT banned from is the one you keep accusing of banning you.
Are you truly this incapable of following a simple conversation? Why is this whooshing so completely over your head?
Comment by Guav — September 5, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Jade reply: Kevin Baker is still a liar. And a coward.
PA constitution:That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination, to, and governed by, the civil power.
Jade:In reality, there is no ambiguity or conflict here. The fact is the PA Constitution specifically tied the bearing of arms to a state militia function.
"Then a quote from Virginia"
From the link: Here every private person is authorized to arm himself, and on the strength of this authority, I do not deny the inhabitants had a right to arm themselves at that time, for their defense, not for offence, that distinction is material and must be attended to. [ L. Kinvin Wroth and Hiller B. Zobel, ed., Legal Papers of John Adams , (Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press: 1965), 3:248.]
it is to be remembered that the carrying of a gun per se constitutes no offence. For any lawful purpose -- either of business or amusement -- the citizen is at perfect liberty to carry his gun. It is the wicked purpose -- and the mischievous result -- which essentially constitute the crime.
Jade:Cramer’s cite provided nothing WRT an individual right.
And a little more history via Saysuncle (who did not ban Jade):
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
Broward County Sheriff Ken Jenne, one of the Brady Bunch's most touted authorities against firearms, is pleading guilty to tax evasion and mail fraud in the area of $86,000. Maybe the Joyce Foundation should give more money to the LCAV. Apparently they're needed. Them and better accountants.
Edit: As Kevin Baker just reminded me, this is the same lying piece of garbage that presented the "AWB =fully auto AK " CNN coverage in '03.
And a CA woman killed her kid (who was already sick andhad a broken arm and skull) by swabbing out his nose w/ a Q-tip that had been used to clean a meth pipe:
And Fenty, Jackson, et. al. are claiming that guns are causing these kinds of actions?
Now Mr. Jackson, we all know you're wasting your time talking to the parents. It's not their fault. It's the NRA and all their propaganda encouraging kids to drop out of school and start a life of crime. They pay gun dealers to go downtown and hand out free pamphlets on it for crying out loud. That, plus the mind-control chips that the gun-lobby forced Congress to have installed in all firearms doesn't give these kids a chance.
Put the blame where it belongs.
Positively straight shooting
CONTROVERSIAL GUNs | Test of ARs shows them to be accurate, simple to use
September 2, 2007
BY DALE BOWMAN Staff Reporter
BONFIELD, Ill. -- They're scary. That's the crux of the gun debate spurred by the AR platform.
The AR platform looks like a machine gun.
That's why Kent Peacock, president of Firearm Safety Training Inc., invited outdoor media to a tactical rifle open house at the Illinois State Rifle Association range Aug. 28. I was the only one who took the opportunity to be enlightened.
''The mass media has the majority of the population thinking ARs are machine guns,'' Peacock said. ''This myth couldn't be further from the truth. They also have the majority of the population thinking the federal gun ban from '94 to '04 made these firearms unavailable. In actuality, many AR manufactures came into existence during that time.''
Boy, someone who goes out shooting, learns a little, enjoys it, then reports about it factually. I'm sure he must be new. :)
Her compromises were as follows:
1. Ban all .50 caliber firearms immediately.
2. Require waiting periods and background checks for all gun sales, private and public.
3. Ban handguns, or, if that's not possible, don't let them anywhere near cities or minorities.
4. Ban assault weapons. After that, get right to work figuring out what an assault weapon is.
5. Hunters can keep some of their guns for hunting, but they'll have to be locked up. We'll need a law for that, too.
6. It would be nice if all the gun owners left the NRA and it folded, because the NRA tends to lie to the gun owners and tell them that they aren't all hunters and they won't like the aforementioned compromises--and we can't have that.
Right out of the Brady Handbook.
And here's what it means to the rest of the English speaking world:
com·pro·mise /ˈkɒmprəˌmaɪz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kom-pruh-mahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -mised, -mis·ing. –noun
|1.||a settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands.|
|2.||the result of such a settlement.|
|3.||something intermediate between different things: The split-level is a compromise between a ranch house and a multistoried house.|
Obviously the Anti's consider definition 3 to be predominant as they're being magnanimous enough not to call for a complete ban and confiscation of firearms.
Here's my more meager reply:
Which "gun culture" are you talking about? The one were 75-90% of homicides are committed by and against those w/ criminal backgrounds or the one where less than 1% of legal gun owners commit any crime whatsoever? You know, the ones who have those concealed carry licenses that you attack as creating crime.
You ask us to justify why we "need" "assault weapons". First I would like you to define for me what you think an "assault weapon" is. In reality,all anti-gun propaganda aside, an "assault weapon" is nothing more than a semi-automatic rifle that has the physical characteristics of a military firearms. In other words, it looks like a military gun but shoots like any other semi-auto rifle. They shoot one round at a time, just like many other rifles used in hunting. The snarky comment of "venison pate" clearly shows you didn't know this .
There are plenty of things to do to stop criminals. The main one is to actually prosecute criminals instead of letting them out on bail for multiple violent charges. I'm sure you read about the Newark killings, correct? That's not an anomoly. The BATFE could stop going after firearm dealers for paperwork mistakes ( ie putting "N" instead of "No"), wasting millions on interior decorating, and spending time changing Wiki articles during work hours, and actually investigate alleged crimes. Governments could actually start funding police forces while the police can improve training and pursue anti-gang measures such as the one that lead to a decrease in crime in Chicago for over 3 years.
While those who want to take away "all guns" is in a minority, the majority of anti-gun activists want to take away the majority, and their measures have little effect on criminals, only those who follow the law.
People's Soviet of Illinois
We are "leading the charge". At the same time, the Anti's are stabbing us in the back.
Monday, September 3, 2007
"In Baltimore, about 91 percent of murder victims this year had criminal records, up from 74 percent a decade ago, police reported. In many cases, says Frederick Bealefeld III, Baltimore's interim police commissioner, victims' rap sheets provide critical links to potential suspects in botched drug deals or violent territorial disputes... Philadelphia also has seen the number of victims with criminal pasts inch up, to 75 percent this year from 71 percent in 2005, department statistics show.
In Milwaukee, ... 77 percent of murder victims in the past two years had an average of nearly 12 arrests."
Why? "A spike in murders in many cities is claiming a startling number of victims with criminal records, police say, suggesting that drug and gang wars are behind the escalating violence."...
..."The notion that these (murders) are random bolts of lightning, which is the commonly held image, is not the reality," says Kennedy, who has examined the backgrounds of murder suspects and victims in a number of U.S. cities.
"It happens, but it doesn't happen often."
So what's the Anti's justification for putting the onus of crime on non-criminals again? Oh, Right.
Borrowed a laser system from a friend of mine . After the wife went and picked up her Kel-Tec P-32, I went out and practiced a little w/ the RIA 1911A1. I didn't feel like dealing w/ the heat so I decided to laser zero it, my Marlin model 81:
and the SAR-1 w/ scope and lasersight:
indoors. Overall, a pretty good Labor Day.
Weekend after next, assuming decent weather, I'll take them down into the valley and finish sighting them in.
"Mister Nick" had managed construction projects around the world, but Nigeria was different from any place else he had worked. Absolute gun control - for the law abiding. The criminals ran rampant. Occasionally a handgun for protection would be offered to one of his workmen, but if in fact he bought it, that night the seller's brother the policeman would arrive to enforce the gun ban, confiscating the weapon (and no doubt returning it so the process would repeat), and collecting a $100 "fine" in lieu of prosecution. He told me of a native watchman (they couldn't have actual guards) who was found with his brains splattered across the gate, and of two of his workers on the floor with rifles held to their heads while the bandits discussed whether it was worth expending the bullets to kill them. He thinks it would be a good idea if we could send all the gun control advocates over there so they can live with the consequences, and we won't need to.
In Australia, the anti's aren't happy w/ all the restrictions they already have in place, they now claim that youth, learning to shoot in a supervised, controlled environment, creates criminals and sociopaths. (Boy, that sentiment sounds familiar even though the exact opposite is the case) and in the UK, hoplophobes are calling for restrictions on expended brass.
Over here, we have politicians calling for not only gun registration but ammo registration, bans on centerfire rifle ammo, bans on small guns, big guns, scary looking guns, hunting, shooting ranges, etc.
But they don't really want to ban all guns.
Sunday, September 2, 2007
Robyn is shutting down her comments.
Her excuse is that I called her out on allowing through some of the most insulting
posts from pro-gunners while still deleting ones that contained dialog. Of course she has to mention the intentionally insulting comments I made on my site while ignoring the rampant vitriol that is constant from the target of said insulting comment. Had she bothered to ask (or even read the source of the quote) , she may have discovered that I didn't "self-proclaim" myself a blowhard. That came from one of the "reasonable" posts from ATR (via RobbAllen's site) who she regularly allowed to be published.
Did I make a highly insulting remark towards Alex on my site? Yep, sure did. I don't deny it nor apologize for it. Had she actually read what I linked to, he made the claim that "guav" stated he felt a little girls life mattered less than a TV or VCR. This wasn't an insinuation or a "translation", it was posted as a quote. That apparently garners respect from Robyn. I have no respect for him whatsoever and I'm sure he doesn't care. He also doesn't care about having any "dialog" or trying to discuss anything w/ anyone who doesn't agree w/him or measure up to his standards. But that's apparently OK since he is anti-gun as well, right?
Be honest with yourself Robyn. You didn't want "dialog". Otherwise you wouldn't have continued using the "GunGuys" and the Mayors Coalition as sources even after it was shown what their intentions are. You wouldn't have continued making posts on Tiahrt even after we showed you the facts. You wanted an echo chamber of people who agreed w/ you or were willing to "compromise" their rights away.
Well, you've got your echo chamber, just like we predicted. I hope it proves satisfying.