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Let the hysterics from the Gun Fearing Pussies at the Brady Campaign begin-

Realfacts not 'convenient' on Mother Jones

Is "Reasoned Discourse" a communicable disease? Did they catch it talking to Helmke?

As War on Guns notes, it's perfectly acceptable to call gun owners and conservatives subhuman over on the Mother Jones message boards, but point out their own hypocrisy in supporting unethical and illegal actions? No way! That's a banning offense.

Under the header that I had been using, I attempted to post this message:

Interestingly enough, when NYC Mayor Bloomberg hired private investigators to try and illegally purchase firearms out of state, committing multiple felonies in the process, Mother Jones supported it:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2006/12/3083_nyc_sues_more_o.html

Not a mention of the letter of rebuke he got from the justice department for doing it ,the fact that he fought handing over the evidence to the BATFE or that ,when he did, NO charges were brought against the dealers by either the state or federal authorities

I got this response:



'when convenient'. Yeah right. We all know what that means. As soon as Sebastian's site's name becomes reality. When I changed the e-mail address, it got through. Amazing, eh?

And we're not militarizing our southern border why?

TUCSON, Ariz. —

Four Mexican soldiers crossed into Arizona and held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, federal authorities said Wednesday...

T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union for Border Patrol agents, said the incursions have created a disturbing pattern.

Bonner said there have been at least a half-dozen situations in recent years in which Mexican soldiers have entered U.S. territory and shot at Border Patrol agents.

And how many of those Mexican soldiers are on the take from the drug lords?

Sen. Lautenberg has MoJo

A letter sent to John Sigler

I write regarding Mother Jones' recent expose of a reported National Rifle Association (NRA) operative who infiltrated a number of gun violence prevention organizations. This story contains serious allegations and I urge you to address them quickly.

According to Mother Jones, Mary McFate spent more than a decade rising through the ranks at several gun violence prevention organizations, including CeaseFire PA, Freedom States Alliance and States United to Prevent Gun VIolence. At the same time, however, McFate--going by the name Mary Lou Sapone--reportedly was a paid "research consultant" for the NRA. As a result, McFate/Sapone was in a position to learn about, and to report back to the NRA on, the concerns, plans and strategies of various gun violence prevention groups.

In light of these serious charges, I call upon you to immediately:

* Admit whether these charges are true or false;

* If these charges are true, disclose the precise nature of the NRA's relationship with Mary McFate/Mary Lou Sapone, including how much she was paid, the time periods for which she received payment and the services she provided;

* Make public the names (including any aliases) of any other NRA employees, consultants, members, or volunteers who have joined gun violence prevention organizations in order to report to the NRA on their activities; and

* Denounce and discontinue the practice of asking or encouraging NRA employees, consultants, members and volunteers to infiltrate gun violence prevention groups.

Although the NRA and I certainly have had our disagreements over the years, I hope that we can agree that the gun violence prevention debate should be based upon an open and honest exchange of ideas, not on underhanded tactics.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Why don't you send a similar letter to VPC exec Josh Sugarmann or Dr. Wintemute Senator? Oh, right, because you're just a shill for the anti-gun lobby.

I'm shakin'.

Not Possible

The murder rate in Chicago went from an increase of 13% in June compared to last year to
18% in July. 62 murders for the month for a rate of about 17.7/100K. Three times higher than the nation and 6 times higher than the rest of the state.

Great job with that gun ban, eh?

An earlier statement made by the Chicago Politburo last month:


if the current murder rate holds in the city, 2008 may end with fewer than 500 homicides and that it is expected to be one of the least deadly years in the city in the last 40 years.

That "less than 500" was actually one less. "If the current rate holds" now, we're looking at 520+. If the current trend increase holds, they're looking at over 600.

America's gun culture QOTD

It's not just for Rural White Men:

I'm in a little funk today (this week?) so I'm going to treat myself to some range time and a new lipgloss.
-Breda

Nobody in DC wants guns..

according to that population control lobby. Except those that do.

And it's already bigger than most gun control groups.

Hey Bryan Miller!!!

Tell me 'honest'ly. Do these statements match up?

According to the most recent publicly available data from ATF, the year 2000 Youth Crime Interdiction Initiative report, over 30 percent of the guns recovered from crime in Camden that year were originally purchased in states in the American Southeast.

By 2004, ATF data showed that the South and New Jersey had steadily declined as sources for recovered crime guns in Camden, to 23 and 16 percent respectively.

But remember, under the Tiahrt Amendment we would not know this.

And, the fact is that because they can’t, the Tiahrt Amendment, which causes this lack of crucial
knowledge, cripples law enforcers, municipal authorities, policy makers and the public.

So you had data from the BATFE from 2004 even though Tiahrt had been in place since '03. How was it the "last publicly available data" was from 2000 then? Why were you using trace data to generate statistics when the BATFE and the CRS both state that the data is incomplete so you can't do that?
Were you being completely 'honest' in your speech?

NRA 007

“It raises some real concerns with the tactics of the NRA. If they’ve got one person, maybe they have more. If they’ve done this dirty trick, what else have they done?” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign, which planned to search its offices for listening devices and computer spyware.

-Paul Helmke

Too funny.

So when do we start seeing websites of NRAgirls in 'provocative' outfits? Howabout all of the gadgets from Q? Where's Felix?

How were these images obtained?

These images were all obtained clandestinely by Dr. Gary Wintemute using a cell phone camera at gun shows. He did not inform any of the dealers or attendees that he was conducting research nor his history of prior anti-gun efforts. He used them in a report claiming that "straw purchases" were rampant in states outside California w/o any evidence besides his personal opinions of various transactions he 'observed'.

This study has been hyped by the Brady Campaign, LCAV, MAIG, and others. It was funded in part by the Joyce Foundation which is the same group that funds the VPC, FSA, and other anti-gun efforts.

Josh Sugarmann: The Mother Jones revelation of Mary McFate's soulless undercover mission

Paul Helmke: Whatever the case, it's clear that some over there have too much money and no moral compass.

Bryan Miller:The McFate operation, says Miller, "would confirm for me the way that the gun lobby works, which is no rules, no question of fairness or honesty. Anything that they can do they will do to protect the profits of the gun industry."

These are the statements of "gun control" executives on the recent discovery that one of their prominent members was a paid informant to the NRA. This is the double standard present in the "gun control" lobby. Just like MAIG founder Chicago Mayor Daley denies citizens of the city the ability to defend themselves while walking around w/ a contingent of body guards, Sugarmann pretending to be an FFL dealer in order to get inside information of the firearm industry, and Mayor Bloomburg hiring people to entrap dealers, they show that the standards they set for everyone else is much higher than the ones they personally live up to.

NRA denies MoJo

Mother Jones, who broke the story of the "mole", is unhappy that the NRA hasn't provided damning sound-bytes for their amusement.

As per typical "authorized journalist" mentality, they think that people should be obligated to talk to them:

So shouldn't the NRA have to address this?

"have to"? No, I don't think they do. They (or anyone else for that matter) are under no obligation to the media whatsoever. "Freedom of the Press" /= Authority of the press.

But maybe not just the media but the NRA's own members (and board members) ought to ask why the lobby was spying on its political foes, who at the organization authorized this covert activity, how much money was spent on it, and, perhaps most important of all, was Sapone its only agent, past or present.

I won't ask them anything except to do more of it and hope they got plenty of information on groups trying to strip us of our rights. That, to me, is a better us of my dues than sending out multiple mailers.

Edit: Obviously the excellent research skills of Mojo are lost when it comes to their regular readers. The comment section reads like a poor copy of Huffpo or DU. All ad hominem all the time. No wonder we've done so well.

Coolest Balloon Evar

Fake "Only Ones"

Not people pretending to be police to commit crimes but people using fake credentials to become real police or to get promotions.

CPS instructor, Berwyn cops turn up on list of possible bogus degree recipients

A federal list of suspected buyers of bogus degrees from a Washington state criminal diploma scheme includes a Chicago Public Schools instructor and five current or former Berwyn police officers—at least one of whom allegedly sought city reimbursement for his bogus PhD in criminal justice, the Tribune has learned.

Yep. Makes me feel safe.

Josh lies through his sour grapes.

Everybody's favorite FFL dealer in DC bites down on his sour grapes over being chumped by the NRA.

One might have a little sympathy for him if he didn't fill his post w/ outright fabrications:

After the 1999 Columbine massacre, the NRA holds it annual meeting less than two weeks later in Denver, ignoring the pleas of families and civic leaders to cancel the event.

Yes, that's right. He brought this tired ol' meme out of the closet and dusted it off. Never mind the fact that the convention canceled all events except those meetings as required by law to be held.


I mean come on Josh. I'm sure you wear a tag stating your affiliation when you do 'research' at those firearm industry shows you attend using your FFL. Right. Don't you?

It's OK to kill kids. They deserve it...

According to ALF spokesmoron Dr. Jerry Vlasak..

"If their father is willing to continue risking his livelihood in order to continue chopping up animals in a laboratory than his children are old enough to recognize the consequences,

Really. He defends attempts to burn the family alive:

"This guy knows what he is doing. He knows that every day that he goes into the laboratory and hurts animals that it is unreasonable not to expect consequences."

The father is unreasonable. Right.

Why are Anti's always so violent?

Armed and Safe points to a sarcastic 'liberal' post on the 2A. I'm going to focus on a different part of the article than he did.

Forty-five million people who have no health insurance will be provided with prescription weapons to take to clinics and hospital emergency rooms, concealed or unconcealed, to assure treatment. SUV owners will be forced, at gunpoint, to trade their gas-guzzlers for hybrids. After reporting obscene profits, Exxon/Mobil executives will be run out of Houston by well-armed liberals.

So his initial concept of his 'well-armed liberals' is to threaten violence to get their way.

Can we say "projection" boys and girls? It really says a lot about that mindset, doesn't it?

So I can sue them?

When the pollen gums the hell out of my firearms and I can't get them clean enough to fire or I get some kind of long term health problems due to this stuff coating my skin?

Howabout the politicians who mandated it in the first place? Will the be held liable for any future problems?

But there's no Slippery-Slope. Really. Trust Us.

Via SIH

Gindalbie Station owner Steve Tonkin, who still has a handgun he has owned for 27 years, has been told that Kalgoorlie police have a letter requesting he turn in his gun.

Mr Williamson said most of the men had had the guns for up to 20 years and were bewildered as to why they were being taken from them under laws introduced after Martin Bryant shot dead 35 people at Port Arthur in Tasmania in 1996.

Any questions?

Lake County, IL

The Lake County committee will be taking up the 2A Resolution August 5th.

Show your support hwo you can.

Hmm. Who do we know from Lake County?

An E-mail Forward.

I've read a version before relating to Kerry if my memory hasn't failed me but it's still funny.

MODERN VERSION OBAMANOMICS: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, "It's Not Easy Being Green. "Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, "We shall overcome." Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake. Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer! The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill Clinton appointed from a list of single-parent welfare recipients. The ant loses the case,,,

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood,,,

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2008,,,

Cowering beneath their rule

David Codrea points to another PSH piece where an editorialist uses the VPC and MAIG as her primary sources. No bias there, right? Especially when she regurgitates the phrases "gun lobby", "reasonable restrictions" and "unfettered access".

This bit really struck me though:

In any case, that night in Paris didn't turn me against those of us who cherish the right to own a gun. Unfortunately these days, too many of us have to cower beneath the rule of it.

So she has no problems with mayors who think they are above the law, violating federal law and bucking restraining orders, but cowers from citizens who want to defend themselves.

Sheep.