Bryan Miller is jealous...

In his latest rant to cover up his previous bout of hysteria:

Nothing new, as the NRA is infamous for lying. But, with a $15 million handle? Impressive. Disgusting, but impressive.

Beyond the pot calling the kettle black, Bryan just wishes ANY any gun group had anywhere near those kinds of funds to play with. He must really hate the fact that that number doesn't even dent the normal operating budgets that fund the dozens of pro-gun measures, camps, and training that occurs every day of every year.

And here I though Bryan was green because of his Frankenstein costume.

Ray Schoenke jumps into the fray..

And, as is his usual SOP, he blames the NRA who had nothing to do w/ it.

"Last year we witnessed what happened to prominent outdoor writer and commentator Jim Zumbo when he dared take a position contrary to NRA policy. Now they are trying to do the same to Dan Cooper.

Today, on behalf of the American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA), I condemned the actions by the NRA and its cronies forcing Dan Cooper out.

So, like before, Ray just flat out lies. He knows it.

The AHSA website version has a section for comments. Unsurprisingly none have made it through the 'moderation' cue. Discourse is bad when you don't tell the truth.

A Shocking Experience

Parents (is my guess) send kid out to steal McCain signs and replace them w/ Obama signs. Owner of signs rigs one up to an electric pet fence. Parents then call cops on sign owner. Cops don't press charges.

That'll teach the little turd.

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. – Shawn Turschak of Chapel Hill was tired of someone stealing McCain-Palin campaign signs from his yard. Turschak, with a degree in electrical engineering, hooked up a third sign to a power source for an electric pet fence Monday and also put up a surveillance camera.

The News & Observer of Raleigh reported that a 9-year-old boy with an Obama-Biden sign grabbed the McCain-Palin sign and got a jolt on Tuesday.

The boy's father, Andrew Noble, upset that his son had been shocked, showed up at Turschak's door. Soon an Orange County sheriff's deputy also showed up at the Turschak's home.

Noble said his son just wanted to see how the sign was put together. Turschak said the boy intended to swap out the signs.

Sheriff Lindy Pendergrass said he doesn't plan to file charges.

Gun Debate Transcript.

Available here.

Still parsing it but one thing I noticed is that John Donohue flat out lied. In regards to the DC handgun ban, he stated:

You could still have a shotgun in
your home. So if you needed to be protected in your home…

Deliberately avoiding the fact that that shotgun needed to be stored disabled w/ ammunition separate. For being a professor, he sure uses ad hominem's quite freely.

Paul Helmke also shows that his stories change with the telling. On Fox, he stated:

I also took away a deep respect for how dangerous guns were.

Yet in the debate he states:

Not only had I had the experience, when I was a teenager, of seeing a
friend get a bullet in the back because of the all too common
incident of, we found a gun, we didn't know it was loaded,

So he had so much 'respect' for how dangerous guns were that he played w/ one he found, not knowing if it was loaded or not.

Gotcha.

Paul also uses the old "22x more likely" meme. Around page 50 Mr. Halbrook hands Paul his rear in the cross discussion.

Donvan attempted to use Sean Penn, with a politically connected 'may issue' CA CCW as a case study against CCW.

By page 63, Paul is reduced to insults with his old 'gun pushers' line. His closing statement blames victims of crime for the actions of criminals:

Where do the guns come from that the bad guys, that the gang members get. They steal them from people like you.

Now I don't agree w/ the causality "More Guns = Less Crime" . But this was a clear win for the pro-rights side.

Boycotts are UnAmerican

According to some commentors on USA Today, covering the Cooper situation.

Apparently not wanting to line the pockets of people who donate to causes we disagree with is wrong. To do so makes one a "right wing freak", a "gun nazi", or a 'communist'.

Bob Ricker of the AHSA agrees:

"It's a really McCarthyism at its worst," said Bob Ricker, executive director of the American Hunters and Shooters Association, which has endorsed Obama. "That's really why our organization was formed, was to deal with this craziness. If you're a gun owner, but you have a contrary view to some of these wackos, they will go out and try to destroy you."

Obviously these individuals don't fully understand the concept.

H/T to SIH

And Armed and Safe for the 2nd article.

TexasFred has more.

Those damn Urbanites again.

Paul Helmke is playing the Obama tune on Fox. You know the one. That 'rural folk' need guns but those people in the cities just can't control themselves.

If you're in the bayous of Louisiana, or the plains of Montana, a gun can be your defense against predators. When the police are far away, you may feel strongly about needing a gun for self-defense. And if someone says we should restrict guns, you worry.

But in urban areas like Philadelphia or South Central Los Angeles or even my home town in Indiana, guns may be best known for injuring young people as a result of gang violence, or police officers at a traffic stop or domestic quarrel. But when you say "we need to controls the weapons available on the streets," other Americans misinterpret you as wanting to limit their rights.

Paul, it might come as a shock to you that people in 'urban areas' also might 'feel strongly about needing a gun for self-defense' against that gang-violence or violent domestic. You want to lump them in the same category as the criminals and insane. You want to pass laws that effect not only 'city people', but everyone else as well.

Howabout we try and control the criminals that are on the streets?

The Amazing Dancing Miller

Bryan Miller, after a long haitus, decided to show us that he needs to up his meds after the whole Mary McFate incident.

Doing the merengue in the blood of an eight year old boy killed in a tragic accident, along with a few penis comments is what he is reduced to.

Sebastian SIH takes him to task.

Update: And the Reasoned Discourse begins:



Here's the comment that I'm sure won't get 'approved'.

Sorry Bryan, when you're reduced to making dick jokes and using anonymous internet comments as sources, you really have little room to determine what is 'healthy' and 'acceptable'.

Gun Owners will Murder People

According to Chicago Mayor Daley:

"When you have someone with access to a gun it shows you what they will do," Daley said.

So Daley admits what he thinks of firearm owners.

He also said:

But, this [Hudson family] crime could never have been prevented, unfortunately.”

But in reality:

Documents show that a suspect in the Chicago murders of three members of Jennifer Hudson's family was arrested for drug possession in June, but state officials didn't revoke his parole.

Yep. It couldn't have been prevented. Right.

ISRA response:

The ISRA-PVF finds it disappointing, but not unexpected, that Chicago Mayor Richard Daley has once again exploited tragedy in an attempt to boost his gun control agenda.

Read the Rest.

NPR Firearm debate

Brady Campaign president Paul Helmke will be joining other anti-rights advocates Prof. John Donohue of Yale University and Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske to argue one side of the issue, while Prof. Gary Kleck of Florida State University, attorney Stephen Halbrook, and John Lott of the University of Maryland will argue for the rights of citizens on NPR.

Info here.

Cooper Firearms makes nice Rifles.

I won't be buying one though.

This year, Cooper has given $3,300 to the campaign of Democrat Barack Obama. That’s on top of the $1,000 check he wrote to Obama’s U.S. Senate campaign in 2004, after he was dazzled by Obama’s speech at that year’s Democratic National Convention.

Update: Sebastian SIH takes Cooper to task.

NRA vs FactCheck: Round 2

To complement my post about FactChecks lack of factchecking, the NRA-ILA has issued their own response to the latest hit-piece by Annenberg Politicals director.

A new story by Brooks Jackson on the FactCheck.org website once again shows that FactCheck cherry-picks “facts” to suit its anti-NRA, anti-gun, anti-self-defense agenda—an agenda that the American people do not share.

The story claims an NRA advertisement on Barack Obama’s votes against a pro-self-defense bill is misleading because (Jackson claims) Obama did not vote for a “general repeal of the right of self defense.”

Of course, that’s not what the ad said. The ad referred to a case where Wilmette, Ill., homeowner Hale DeMar was prosecuted for owning a handgun—a fact that was only discovered after he used the gun in lawful self-defense against a masked criminal who (as FactCheck points out) was breaking into DeMar’s home for the second time in two days. In fact, burglar Morio Billings was a career criminal—a fugitive from justice with prior convictions in three states and six arrests just that year, hoping to steal enough money for some “blow and crack.” After his capture, he told police he “didn’t care if anyone was home.” And eleven days after serving his sentence for the DeMar break-in, burglar Billings was arrested yet again.

But Obama supported Wilmette’s ability to prosecute DeMar...

Even more outrageously, the supposedly neutral Jackson tries to blame the whole situation on the victim, rather than on the repeat offender who invaded his home. Jackson blames the victim for not getting his locks changed quickly enough after the first break-in, and for moving to confront the intruder before the intruder reached the children in the bedroom. But as DeMar himself asked in a newspaper op-ed, “What is one to do when a criminal proceeds, undeterred by a 90-pound German shepherd, a security alarm system and a property lit up like an outdoor stadium?”

Read the rest here.

They ask the question: "Do Brooks Jackson and FactCheck have an intrinsic bias against gun owners? "

I wouldn't say against gun owners as a whole as they have done some pieces against gun control claims, but Mr. Jackson certainly has an intrinsic bias against the NRA. He's made that perfectly clear. It would only cause further harm to FactChecks reputation of impartiality by allowing him to continue writing on the subject. But I'm sure that won't stop them.

Irony

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Yeah, I know it could be legit, but it just struck me as funny.