
at least according to some Brits asked to label the US states.
The scary thing is most of these maps are more accurate than many US students could do.


29 percent were persuaded by NGVAC last night--more than those persuaded by pro gun messages. Reason prevailsHere's the real info:
Even more people changed their viewpoints after the debate, almost equally in either direction. An anonymous vote showed that the number of people that said homes are safer with a gun went up by 27 percent. Those who say homes are not safer went up 29 percent. Although these numbers were slightly affected by a few latecomers to the debate who missed the initial poll.29 to 27 percent. What a huge difference. Now take a look at this screen cap of the 'crowd'.
The speakers were a local SA, a local judge, a law professor, and a guy from ICHV. Overall like dodgeboy said it was a very fair and balanced presentation, mostly fact based, with the SA waxing eloquent on some quotes from the founders and history for a few minutes at one point. The law professor was first and the longest, and walked through the law point by point. I got the impression he might be an anti, but to his credit, his presentation was completely fact based, and he did a fine job overall. The SA was clearly a proponent of CCW, though he was also fair, bringing up both supporting statistical studies, and non-supporting statistical studies in his speech. The judge asked several questions to the other three which to me it seemed he should already know, so I think they were rhetorical for the sake of presentation.And the reason for the ISRA Alert?
The guy from ICHV didn't have much to say. He clearly had his tail between his legs.I'm sure in a canned event, he would have had a lot more to say regarding how CCW holders are just killers in waiting. Instead he faced this:
I think the crowd was mostly pro-2A people. At least a half dozen NRA hats including myself, and I saw a few igold shirts too, among other 2A clothing.The only time gun control can survive is in areas where they are the only ones speaking. When it comes to open debate/discussion, they lose.
The Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence (ICHV) will be holding a panel
discussion against concealed carry on Monday evening in Rockford, IL. The
ICHV is a rabidly anti-gun organization that is working hard to take your
guns away from you.
WHAT: Anti-CCW Panel Discussion
WHEN: Monday, 18 November 2013, 6:30 PM
WHERE: YWCA, 4990 East State Street, Rockford, IL