Monday, May 9, 2011

@CSGV ,Federalists and Sheer Lunacy

Ladd Everitt makes a clear case why the Federalist faction of the Founding Fathers opposed a Bill of Rights:
@ @ Anything not expressly protected by the Constitution is a matter of common law and always has been.
So if it's not specifically mentioned, the Gov't can ban it according to gun ban advocates. Disbelieving the 9th Amendment.

They continue:
@ Hardly. The burden of proof is on extremists who argue for constitutional protection for behavior never mentioned by Madison.
Like those 'extremists' who argued for Right to Privacy .

And just to show how much they 'Disbelieve' history they don't like:
@ The protection you DO have, as stated by Madison repeatedly, is to own private arms for service in Militia under state control
That argument worked real well for the Chicago lawyers. Keep that one up.

Then Ladd just goes into straight lunacy:
@ J. Madison also never felt need to mention martians, talking aardvarks, and faeries in his writings on . Equally "obvious."

@ Maybe Madison did want right to defend against Martians, huh? Or maybe a brilliant man just said what he meant, repeatedly.
Seriously. This is the mindset of what is leading gun control advocacy in the US.

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8 comments:

Kurt "45superman" Hofmann said...

CSGV: screw the Ninth Amendment!

alcade said...

Is Ladd advocating formation of a militia? Are we supposed to meet at his house? I hope he has snacks...

LC Scotty said...

"Is it too early for flapjacks?"

LC Scotty said...

What's with the obsession with Madison all of a sudden? Did they run out of Max Weber quotes?

alcade said...

Joan is going on about constitutional carry and how none of those people have any training. Ya know, not too long ago every town had a militia with mandatory enlistment. Obviously members would receive training on firearms.

Wonder if she'd advocate a return to that...

For public safety reasons, of course.

Thirdpower said...

He doesn't like Militia's either, even state run ones, unless they're under direct federal control.

Kurt "45superman" Hofmann said...

He doesn't like Militia's either, even state run ones, unless they're under direct federal control.

And militias that are not under state control would completely defeat the purpose of even CSGV's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment (all caps emphasis in original):

To be clear, the Second Amendment did allow citizens to participate in state militias with their own private firearms, and those militias were indeed intended as a check on overzealous government. But the key here, and Second Amendment author James Madison stated so specifically (in Federalist No. 46 among other places) was that THIS OPPOSITION WAS TO BE DIRECTED BY STATE GOVERNMENTS.

Thirdpower said...

Well I never said they were consistent in their ramblings.