Tuesday, February 5, 2008

For hunters who don't believe they're on the "list"

Here it is straight from the VPC, primary mouthpiece of the Joyce Foundation, the group that funds most of the anti-gun activities in the US:

Bring heavy and intermediate sniper rifles under the control of the National Firearms Act.

What is an "intermediate sniper rifle" you ask?

Why, they explain that as well:

Some manufacturers may choose to refine the .338 Lapua Magnum, an intermediate round falling in size and power somewhere between the traditional military 30 calibers and the .50 BMG. The .338 Lapua Magnum was designed in the late 1980s "as a long-range European military sniping round," according to sniping expert John Plaster. He advises that its "great speed and heavy weight makes for especially lethal long-range shooting and good penetration against vehicles and aircraft�typical counterterrorist targets�as well as building materials."282 Some manufacturers already offer .338 Lapua Magnum sniper rifles.

According to Forbes, sniper magnate Ronnie G. Barrett plans later this year to make his "boldest move" yet, "when he steps out of the .50-caliber niche with a new .30-caliber tactical rifle designed for police SWAT teams. Barrett hopes that market will boost annual sales to $20 million over the next three years."283 The magazine does not say whether Barrett plans to offer the new SWAT sniper rifle to civilians, but if the past is any guide, it will be. It is not clear whether the new 30 caliber will be a .338 Lapua Magnum...

Therefore, a useful strategy for effective control may lie in civil litigation, a strategy that would be enhanced if states passed legislation clearly establishing strict liability for damages resulting from the use or misuse of such weapons. Such litigation could impose tort liability, including punitive damages, for manufacturers, wholesalers, distributors, importers, retailers, and any others who participate in bringing to the civilian market any sniper rifle (in any caliber) or associated gear (such as ammunition or optics) that is used to kill or injure a human being or to damage property.

In short, the gun industry should be held to the strictest standards of legal accountability available for the design and marketing to civilians of military sniper rifles, as detailed in this report.


Military Sniper Rifle? You mean like the Remington 700.

Associated Gear? You mean like every scope out there? All Ammo?

But they're just talking about AP ammo, right? Sure, you keep believing that.

The existing ban on armor-piercing ammunition should be updated and expanded to cover all AP and API ammunition. This would most effectively be accomplished through the promulgation of a performance standard in which ammunition is tested for its ability to penetrate bullet-resistant vests, ballistic glass, and armor,ee as opposed to the existing standard based on the bullet's content.

Guess what? Most "bullet-resistant vests" are designed to stop PISTOL rounds. Not rifle rounds. You're 30 cal of any sort would be categorized as AP ammo.

So yes Virginia, they are coming after your hunting guns. It's not likely they'll succeed, but, by their own admission, it's one of their goals.


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10 comments:

kaveman said...

Thirdpower...

Please send me $13.35 in cash.

I need to buy some vodka after reading this post and it is your fault I am here. You are responsible and should afford me my medication due to injuries suffered on you blog.

Chop chop!

kaveman said...

I like this little nugget as well when speaking of .50 cals...

"America must know who besides Osama bin Laden possesses these deadly tools of assassination and terror."

It's not like they're comparing us to terrorists or nuthin'.

Hey wait a sec...

Linoge said...

Gorram it!

I just spent about two hours writing some massive weblog post, with one of its key operating points being that no anit-rights/anti-firearms/hoplophobic organization being willing to actually come out and say they want to ban all fierarms.

And then you go and post this.

Gorram you!

Granted, they are not quite up to banning all firearms... they will still let us have our .22s... at least until they come to terms with the fact that even those are lethal. And the will still let us keep our shotguns... well, at least until they realize that armor ain't gonna do much against 12 gauge slugs... I suppose there are always our pistols, except that pistols are the work of the devil, and all of these organizations have come out against them.

*sigh* What a waste of time on my post. Curse you! ;)

Thirdpower said...

Linoge,

You're right. Our masters at the NRA should have coordinated us better. There goes our wheelbarrels full of cash for the month.

Texas gun nut said...

And I quote-


Likewise, information regarding how many of these sniper rifles have been used in crime is sketchy at best. ATF keeps track of how many times local police departments request that such weapons be traced. However, no information regarding the police department requesting the trace or the type of crime with which the weapon was associated is available.

- end quote

which might possibly mean.....
stay with me now....
ready? ok...
That these rifles, and others like them, have not, are not, and will not be used in the commision/s of crime. Period.

Now owning a high powered long range rifle (known to many of us simply as a "deer rifle") is cause for being considered a criminal?

These people will stop at nothing to display their own ignorance and/or stupidity.

Anonymous said...

According to Forbes, sniper magnate Ronnie G. Barrett plans later this year to make his "boldest move" yet, "when he steps out of the .50-caliber niche with a new .30-caliber tactical rifle designed for police SWAT teams. Barrett hopes that market will boost annual sales to $20 million over the next three years."283 The magazine does not say whether Barrett plans to offer the new SWAT sniper rifle to civilians, but if the past is any guide, it will be. It is not clear whether the new 30 caliber will be a .338 Lapua Magnum...

Some people shouldn't be allowed to write about guns. Barrett is going to build a .30 cal tactical rifle, and this idiot wonders if it's going to be a .338. Sheesh.

cmblake6 said...

Just remember people. The Masters cannot rule unless the populace so deems it, should the populace be armed. So they take away your guns. What are you to do. Vote? What vote?

The Freeholder said...

I can't remember who, but one (or perhaps more) folks predicted this a few years ago. Pretty damn sad.

Anonymous said...

"Granted, they are not quite up to banning all firearms... they will still let us have our .22s"

Actually, they stated :

"any sniper rifle (in any caliber) or associated gear (such as ammunition or optics)"

So a scoped .22LR could be included under this part of their definitions.

The armor penetraton test was only in determing which evil ammo to ban first.

TexasFred said...

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men sit idly by do nothing

Not trying to give the idiot gun grabbers additional ammunition, but, a .22 rifle IS an assault rifle, in the right hands...

A bow and arrow are assault weapons, in the right hands...

If some asshat pops you upside the head with a Coke bottle, that Coke bottle is an assault weapon...

My good fellow gun lovers, we ARE in for one hell of a fight...